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1885 - 1916


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1887 - 1916


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Pte 27360 Herbert Fell


  • Age: 24
  • From: Chester
  • Regiment: The King's (Liverpool Regiment) 17th Btn
  • K.I.A Sunday 16th September 1917
  • Commemorated at: Kemmel Chateau Mil Cem
    Panel Ref: G.61

This soldier has proven very difficult to establish his true identity.

The only confirmed information is realised from his medal rolls which state he was born illegitimately, and he was the son of Alice Fell of 2 Dragon Rd, Whiston.
SDGW is frequently unreliable but says he was born in Chester, and resided in Birkenhead.

The Soldiers Effects record exists but has no legatee.
 
Based on the available information a family has been identified where a Herbert James FELL is the candidate:-

On the 1901 census at Oaks Cottages, Little Sutton, Wirral. Head of the household William Fell, aged 57, a farm labourer, b.Cumberland, wife Betsy, 55 b.Burgh-by-Sands, Cumberland, children nee Johnston, Richard 25 cowman on farm b.Gateshead Durham, Mary Ann 24 b.Burgh-by-Sands, Emma Isabel 17 b.Lancashire(Carlisle on GRO). The two youngest on the census are most probably grandchildren really as no mother is declared on the GRO but both are recorded as sons- Herbert James 9 b.Beckfoot, Cumberland, and Joseph 7 b.Blacon Point, Cheshire.

There is no trace of Herbert on the 1911 Census, though he may be at sea, as a H.J.Fell is a 2nd Mate aboard the Harrison Line SS Inanda from Las Palmas to London on the 14th September 1914. 
 
To link up Herbert James to his mother Alice Fell it is necessary to look at the earlier census records of the identified family who were living in Cumberland on the 1871, 1881 and 1891 census returns.

The 1871 Census shows the Fell family living at Burgh, Carlisle. The eldest son Robert is b.1868 in Burgh, Cumberland he lives with his parents William aged 29 and Elizabeth aged 25. Robert has a younger brother William aged 2 months.

By 1881 the family have moved to Garborough Cottages, Cockermouth. Robert is a 12 year old scholar living with his father, a 35 yeart old agricultural labourer  and his siblings; Hannah aged 8, Richard aged 5 and Mary Ann aged 3. 

In 1891 Robert is shown as a 23 year old farm servant living with the Armstrong family at Hill House, Wigton. 

After moving down to Cheshire, Robert marries Alice Johnston at St Luke, Lower Tranmere in 1903. They have a son Robert William, birth registered in Prescot 1905.
 
On the 1911 Census mother Alice Fell is found at 28 Sutherland Road, Whiston. Head of the household is Robert Fell, a farm labourer aged 42, born in Burgh-by-Sands, Carlisle, wife Alice, aged 41 born Higher Tranmere (married 9 years 1 child), son Robert William 5 .b.Halewood. [note age and place of birth of Herbert's father Robert are identical to previous census returns].

Herbert enlisted in Knowsley on, or close to, 20th May 1915 as Private 27360, joining the 17th Battalion of THe King's Liverpool Regiment. It is likely that he was immediately billeted at Belton Park, Grantham. The 17th battalion remained here until September 1915 when they reached Larkhill Camp on Salisbury Plain.Herbert crossed to France with 'A' Coy of the 17th K.L.Rr. on 07th November 1915.

He was wounded (shell shock and contusion of chest) at Guillemont on 30th July 1916 and was treated at 13 CCP and Field Ambulance before being transferred to 36 Casualty Clearing Station (Heilly) the same day.

Admitted 18 General Hospital (Camiers) 31/7/16.

Joined 24 Infantry Base Depot 14/8/16.

Forfeits 3 day's pay for reporting sick without a cause at 24 Infantry Base Depot 26/8/16. 

Joined AHTD (Advanced Horse Transport Depot) at Abbeville on 07/9/16.

Rejoined 17 KLR 27/4/17.

Admitted 98 Field Ambulance 07/6/17 (fever).

Admitted 2 Canadian Casualty Clearing Station 13/6/17.

Admitted 13 General Hospital (Boulogne) 14/6/17.

Joined 1 Convalescent Depot 22/6/17.

Joined 24 Infantry Base Depot 26/6/17.

Rejoined 17 KLR 25/7/17.

On leave to UK 21-31/8/17.

Killed in action aged 24 on 16th September 1917 with A Coy 17th K.L.R.

Details extracted from the 17th Battalion War Diary:-

16/9/17 Front Line Hollebeke Sector
At 10am our artillery put up a second practice barrage on enemy's line lasting 30 minutes. The enemy replied with a light barrage on our front and support lines. Casualties 1 other rank killed and one wounded. 

Herbert now rests at Kemmel Chateau Cemetery, Belgium.

Kemmel Chateau was north-east of Kemmel village and the cemetery was established on the north side of the chateau grounds in December 1914. It continued to be used by divisions fighting on the southern sectors of the Belgian front until March 1918, when after fierce fighting involving both Commonwealth and French forces, the village and cemetery fell into German hands in late April. The cemetery was retaken later in the year, but in the interval it was badly shelled and the old chateau destroyed. There are now 1,135 Commonwealth burials of the First World War in the cemetery and 21 from the Second World War (which all date from the Allied withdrawal ahead of the German advance of May 1940). The cemetery was designed by Sir Edwin Lutyens.

The register of soldiers effects show that his effects were advertised but no claimants came forward, however his medal rolls show illegitimate. If Herbert was illegitimate then there would be nobody entitled to receive his  medals.

We currently have no further information on Herbert Fell, If you have or know someone who may be able to add to the history of this soldier, please contact us.

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