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Capt Arthur de Bells Adam (MC)
1885 - 1916


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1887 - 1916


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1894 - 1916


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1897 - 1916


Lieut Edward Stanley Ashcroft
1883 - 1918
Lieut Edward Stanley Ashcroft

Pte 29280 Edgar Saywell


  • Age: 21
  • From: Marden, Kent
  • Regiment: The King's (Liverpool Regiment) 20th Btn
  • K.I.A Sunday 30th July 1916
  • Commemorated at: Thiepval Memorial
    Panel Ref: P&F1D8B &8 C.

Edgar Saywell was born on the 29th October 1893 at Marden, Kent, the youngest son of John Grace Saywell and his wife Sarah (née Spittle) who were married on the 08th June 1874 at St Botolph's Church, Bishopsgate, London. John was a 20 year old carpenter of Borden. Kent, father Richard a builder, whilst Sarah was aged 19, also of Borden, father William a grocer.

Edgar was baptised on the 27th February 1894 at St Michael & All Angels Church, Marden. His parents had thirteen children, one of whom died young. Edgar had older sisters Lilian, Marion, May, Kate, and Emily, all born in Borden (near Sittingbourne), and Ethel, born in Milton, and brothers Arthur, Edwin (who died at age 1), Frank, Harry and Ronald, all born in Borden.  By the time of Edgar’s birth in 1893 the family had moved to Marden, 17 miles southwest of Borden, where his younger sister Ella was also born. 

At the time of the 1901 Census the family is living at 20 Queens Gardens, Herne Bay, with eight children at home. His parents are both 46, his father is employed as a carpenter. Kate, 21, and Emily, 16, have no occupation listed; Frank, 17, is a grocer’s assistant; Harry 13, Ronald 12, Ethel 10, Edgar 7, and Ella 5, are at school.

 

His name was mentioned in the Whitstable Times and Herne Bay Herald on Saturday 30 July 1910: 

CHURCH OF ENGLAND TEMPERANCE SOCIETY.  

SEVENTH ANNUAL JUVENILE FESTIVAL OF THE CANTERBURY AND ROCHESTER DIOCESES.  

PRESENTATION OF PRIZES BY THE HON. MRS. HARDCASTLE.  

Nearly thousand children from all parts of the County were assembled in the Chapter House, Canterbury Cathedral, on Saturday afternoon, the occasion being the seventh annual juvenile festival of the Church of England Temperance Society in the dioceses of Canterbury and Rochester, The Bishop of Croydon (Dr. Pereira) presided. 

DIOCESE OF CANTERBURY. 

SENIOR DIVISION (Ages over 16). 

SECOND CLASS. - Saywell, Edgar, Herne Bay. 

The 1911 Census shows the family are still living at 20 Queens Gardens, Herne Bay, Kent. His father, John, is aged 56, born 1855 in Borden, Kent, his occupation shown as a carpenter, his mother, Sarah, is aged 56 and was also born in Borden, Kent. They have been married for thirty five years and have had thirteen children of which one died. The only child at home at the time of the Census is Edgar aged 17, and is employed as a clerk in a gas works. 

His sister Kate is working as a nurse in London. A number of his siblings emigrated before the war. Marion married and moved to Australia; Harry went to Canada; Ronald became a planter in India; and his brother Frank emigrated to Australia (and had a son in 1928 he named Edgar).

Prior to his enlistment he was employed as a Clerk and resided in London.

He enlisted on 27th May 1915 at Herne Bay, Kent and served in the 20th Battalion of The King’s Liverpool Regiment as Private No 29280. 

Another family member, possibly Arthur, joined the Pals but did not serve overseas (no Medal Roll). 

Herne Bay Press 17th July 1915 

THE ROLL OF HONOUR. 

MEN WHO ARE SERVING THEIR KING AND COUNTRY. 

SAYWELL A, King’s Liverpool “Pals” Regt. 

SAYWELL E, 4th Co., 20th SB. King’s Liverpool City Regt. 

Edgar arrived in France with his battalion, disembarking at Boulogne on 07th November 1915.

He was killed in action on the 30thJuly 1916, aged 21, at the village of Guillemont, France, during the Somme Offensive. 

The 20th King’s Battalion Diary records:

“At 4.45am prompt the attack was launched. Unfortunately, a thick mist prevailed and it was impossible to see more than 10 yards ahead. This continued until about 6 o’clock when it lifted slightly, but it was still too hazy and impossible to see what was happening 100 yards ahead. This being so, it was not surprising to find that the attacking waves were experiencing great difficulty in maintaining connection.”

At 6am, Lt. RE Melly, No.1 Company, reported that his men had taken the German Maltz Horn trench.

At 6.30am, 2/Lt. CP Moore reported that he had 150 men, 4 Stokes Mortars and 2 Lewis Guns, but he was the only officer. He also said that due to the fog, both his “flanks were in the air” i.e. he was not in contact with neighbouring troops.

At 9.10am, Moore was still not in contact at his flanks, and now he had only 75 men, he had sent out 2 patrols and neither not returned. Later Moore established communication with the French on his right.

Around 10.00am, 2/Lt Musker reported that he had just over a company with him, but his left flank was suffering from German machine gun fire. Later he reported that he had over 30 casualties from the machine gun fire. His flanks were also “in the air”. No contact was made with this party until the remnants returned around 9.30pm, all runners sent were killed or missing. The War Diary states that this group had: ”held the ground won all day, and this permitted the consolidation of the ground won on the Maltz Horn ridge with little interference from the enemy”.

Relief for 20/Kings had been planned for 11.00pm, but it was 5.00am on the 31st July before it took place, ending a tragic day for the Liverpool Pals.

Casualties for 20th Battalion were 16 Officers and 357 Other Ranks

When darkness fell on the battlefield the 30th Division held a line from the railway on the eastern side of Trones Wood , southwards and including Arrow Head Copse, to east of Maltz Horn Farm. On this line the division was relieved by the 55th Division during the early hours of the 31st July. 

The events of 30th July 1916 were regarded at the time as Liverpool’s blackest day. There follows an extract from The History of the 89th Brigade written by Brigadier General Ferdinand Stanley which gives an indication of the events of the day.

Guillemont

Well the hour to advance came, and of all bad luck in the world it was a thick fog; so thick that you couldn’t see more than about ten yards. It was next to impossible to delay the attack – it was much too big an operation- so forward they had to go. It will give some idea when I say that on one flank we had to go 1,750 yards over big rolling country. Everyone knows what it is like to cross enclosed country which you know really well in a fog and how easy it is to lose your way. Therefore, imagine these rolling hills, with no landmarks and absolutely unknown to anyone. Is it surprising that people lost their way and lost touch with those next to them? As a matter of fact, it was wonderful the way in which many men found their way right to the place we wanted to get to. But as a connected attack it was impossible.

The fog was intense it was practically impossible to keep direction and parties got split up. Owing to the heavy shelling all the Bosches had left their main trenches and were lying out in the open with snipers and machine guns in shell holes, so of course our fellows were the most easy prey.

It is so awfully sad now going about and finding so many splendid fellows gone.

Edgar's body was not recovered from the battlefield or was subsequently lost as he has no known grave and is commemorated on the Thiepval Memorial.

The Thiepval Memorial, the Memorial to the Missing of the Somme, bears the names of more than 72,000 officers and men of the United Kingdom and South African forces who died in the Somme sector before 20 March 1918 and have no known grave. Over 90% of those commemorated died between July and November 1916. 

On 01st August 1932 the Prince of Wales and the President of France inaugurated the Thiepval Memorial in Picardy. The inscription reads: “Here are recorded the names of officers and men of the British Armies who fell on the Somme battlefields between July 1915 and March 1918 but to whom the fortune of war denied the known and honoured burial given to their comrades in death.”

He earned his three medals.  

Edgar’s Army pay and a War Gratuity of £4-10s went to his father. His mother was awarded a pension of 5/- a week from March 1917, by then living at 111 Overhill Road, East Dulwich, S.E. London.

On the first anniversary of his death an In Memoriam notice appeared in the Herne Bay Press:

“In ever loving memory of Edgar Saywell, King’s Liverpool Regt., who was killed in action on July 30th, 1916.

    In life beloved.

In death lamented.”

Edgar's sister, Kate, volunteered during the war and served with the French Red Cross as a Nursing Sister from October 1915 to January 1917 and from May 1917 until November 1918. She earned the Victory and British War Medals (British Committee, French Red Cross).

His mother died, aged 75, on the 31st January 1930 (family tree). His father died the following year, at 77. 

Probate 1931:-  

SAYWELL John Grace of 17 Valley Road, Shortlands Kent died 6 October 1931 Probate London 20 November to Emily Saywell spinster. Effects £195 0s 3d. 

Edgar is commemorated on the Herne Bay Memorial in Memorial Park.

We currently have no further information on Edgar Saywell, If you have or know someone who may be able to add to the history of this soldier, please contact us.

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